When Love Hurts Podcast

When Love Hurts is a powerful podcast that exposes the reality about men’s abuse of women — what it is, why it happens, and how we can respond. Hosted by Jill Cory and Karen McAndless-Davis, authors of the influential book When Love Hurts, the show draws from their decades of frontline experience supporting women and educating communities.

Together, we’ll break down the many myths and misconceptions that allow abuse to hide in plain sight. For example, the myth that abuse is limited to physical violence fails to include the full scope of abuse — emotional, verbal, financial, sexual etc. This myth prevents women and their supporters from recognizing the impact of all forms of abuse. We also explore the social and systemic forces that enable men’s abuse, and what true support and accountability look like.

This podcast is for everyone — not just survivors or professionals — because abuse impacts us all, whether we see it or not. Jill and Karen offer clear insight, practical wisdom, and heartfelt compassion in each episode. Join us as we shine light into the darkness, build understanding, and work toward a world where love never hurts.

When Love Hurts, the Podcast

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Episode 8: Understanding the healing journey

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In this episode, we explore the healing journey for women who have experienced abuse.

Episode 7: Mothering, post separation abuse, and the legal system

A man and woman hold a child's hand on both sides while walking away in the park.

How men’s abuse profoundly impacts mothering and how that abuse so often continues after separation through the legal system.

Episode 6: The harms of help

When Love Hurts podcast episode about the harms of professional help; a counsellor sits with a client, taking notes.

How services can repeat dynamics of abuse.

Alison Epp

Alison has a Master’s of Counselling Psychology and works in a counselling practice providing individual and group counselling. Alison continues to co-facilitate a WLH support group through MCC Saskatoon.

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Jo Neill

Jo is a Registered Clinical Counsellor with a private practice in BC. Jo works with other survivors as well as educating people on the topic of abuse and coercive control.

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Jill Cory

Jill has been an advocate, counsellor, researcher, trainer, and author. She is a co-author of When Love Hurts: A Woman’s Guide To Understanding Abuse in Relationship and When Love Hurts: Best Practice Framework and Curriculum.

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Karen McAndless-Davis

Karen leads support groups for women and trains professionals in best practices in the field of VAW. She is a co-author of When Love Hurts: A Woman’s Guide To Understanding Abuse in Relationship and When Love Hurts: Best Practice Framework and Curriculum.

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